"Biggest Fan" Section Suggestion

Perhaps it is just me, but I'm kinda bugged by the fact that the "Biggest Fan of…" area on artist pages is strictly decided by how many of that artists works you have in your combined Have and Want lists. Shouldn't more 'weight' be given to people that actually own items?

For instance, if I Have 3 pieces by Artist A & Want 10 more shouldn't I be considered a "Bigger Fan" than a user who Has 0 pieces & Wants 14?

Humorously enough, this scenario came to my attention because I am listed as a biggest fan of someone that I merely have Wants for… while a user that actually owns a piece is near the bottom of the list. It just seemed wrong to me…

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Trust Pigs

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Very interesting for conversation indeed...  I would like to see people who "have" more than the ones who "want".  Anybody can "want" any piece, so it can easily outgrow the "have".  Maybe a much higher weighting for the "have".

Also, I tend to use the "want" more towards production items so that people could see what I want as trade for my items to "deal".

I've mentioned this before, would like to see the "this is fuckin' sweet" be something where I can see what I have tagged previously.  Kinda like a favorite. I think people would use it more, if they know that it is more than just clicking on the button.  Also, it may address the issue of using the "want" for things to come back to later.

Upvote my reply if you agree... :-)

about 12 years ago · Comment ·

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trustpigs m I also use Want a LOT to just mark things for me to come back to… I don't necessarily actually want everything in my Want List, I just want to be able to refind those items quicker for various reasons. about 12 years ago

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blake a IMO, the weighting is there, but may need some adjusting provided it doesn't go too far. Ie., some artists only have 20 items (or less) in the library, and if we boosted the value of Haves to be 4 (from 2), owning 5 would be equal to Wanting every one. Esp if the pieces are designer and not customs, I think the bigger fan here is clearly the one who wants every piece, but is perhaps just on a tighter budget. about 12 years ago

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blake a Glad you brought up the "sweet" button, because admittedly when using that feature, I have felt the same way. In general, the Want list is meant more as a way to get notified when an item becomes available or for sharing to facilitate trades (once Marketplace launches). Having a "sweet" list would likely lead to people using the Want feature less for simply bookmarking. about 12 years ago

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trustpigs m If I could use the Sweet button like a Favorite button, then that would at least allow me to shift from Wanting as much as I do. :) about 12 years ago

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vihkter I've been using the "sweet" button this way, hoping that eventually this feature will be implemented as I'll have my favorites pre-populated... ;-) about 12 years ago

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blake a It definitely will be added. :) about 12 years ago

Yeah I think pieces owned should be what determines an artists biggest fan as well. I think the "want" feature should be utilized more for the marketplace when it becomes live i.e. getting notified when someone is selling one etc. but Im sure you guys already thought of that one.

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about 12 years ago · Comment ·

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JoshMayhem v and yup ya sure did as I just now read Blakes response below haha about 12 years ago

Agreed that a list of your "sweet" items would be nice.  There's some things that I like that I'll mark as sweet but either couldn't ever afford or don't fit in with my collection so I won't hit "want".  It'd be nice to be able to see a list of these items as a reference when showing other people cool stuff that you might not remember the name of otherwise.

about 12 years ago · Comment ·

And not to get too insane here, but should retail price of the figure matter?

In other words, should the guy that only owns 1 custom but spent $500 on it be considered "a bigger fan" than the guy who owns 10 production figures that cost $7 a piece?

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about 12 years ago · Comment ·

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vihkter i would tend to say no, price should not be a factor in the equation... some people just have more disposable income than others. doesn't mean that they are any bigger fan than someone who can afford production pieces.

besides, i think anyone who has spent on a few custom will likely have many of the production pieces anyways so I think they end up with more "have"... about 12 years ago

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trustpigs m Probably true, Vihkter… I just wanted to throw that on out there for people to think about. about 12 years ago

 

I think you should own at least one piece to be as first two spots, not only likes, to give more weight at least on those two spaces to the people who owns the pieces.

 

about 12 years ago · Comment ·

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vihkter good idea... a little more to consider for the listing. another way is to allow to sort by "have" and "wants" so you can see the top ones for each. about 12 years ago

Agreed. I also noticed some fans don't own a single piece of a collection, but are at the top of the list.

about 12 years ago · Comment ·

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blake a if you can point out an example of this -- when and if you notice it -- that would be helpful. unless you are just referring to cases where people "want" some but don't own any. i will likely be revisiting the weighting amounts. about 12 years ago

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HoodedGrub m Will do. about 12 years ago

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Mister-Quiche m @ blake: sucklord is an example where the biggest fan does not own a single piece, but has marked 'want' on around 80. personally i consider the next user on the list a bigger fan as they own nearly 40 pieces about 12 years ago

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trustpigs m Wow, that's a major one! about 12 years ago

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blake a cool yea, i will make some adjustments on this tonight about 12 years ago

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HoodedGrub m Forgot about this conversation, but looking quick, Huck Gee's biggest fan owns 15 items. The 2nd biggest fan owns 52. the 3rd 23 and the 4th, 44. Pretty unbalanced. :) about 12 years ago

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trustpigs m Ha ha ha… Yea, in my book, the guy that has 52 Huck Gee figures and only wants 4 more should be higher than the guy who has 15 but wants 89 more. about 12 years ago

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blake a The weighting has been modified as of tonight. 'Haves' are now worth 3 and 'Wants' are worth 1 when calculating relative weight. This should help a bit with some of the questionable ordering you have seen. :) about 12 years ago

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mileszustand m Still a little unbalanced, at leased for Huck Gee's biggest fans. How about 4:1 for Haves:Wants. about 12 years ago

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mileszustand m But even a 10:1 weight wouldn't balance the Dunny biggest fan list :D about 12 years ago

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blake a I think we could continue to turn the knob up and down on this one, and it wouldn't be right in every situation to a human viewer. The fact is, there is some nuance to who deserves the title "biggest fan". As long as it seems fair 90+% of the time, I am comfortable with that. :) about 12 years ago

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trustpigs m The only further modification I'd suggest (if possible) is that people who own at least one piece should always take precedence over someone who has none. But that's just me. about 12 years ago

It is weighted ... every 'have' counts as 'two' and every 'want' counts as 'one'. :)

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trustpigs m Perhaps it should be weighted a bit higher then? I just think fans who actually spend money buying things should be 'rewarded' with the biggest fan title more so than people who just stare at things, wanting them, but not buying… about 12 years ago

Would an original be worth more weighted than a production run piece? I agree with what I've read in others responses and am interested to know what the final outcome is.

about 12 years ago · Comment ·

yup agreed, i did wonder about this too, i think it should be primarily weighted on pieces owned.

about 12 years ago · Comment ·

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